Humm, Paid for by Microsoft Sql Server users group. Not TOO biased I'm
sure. By the way you can find similar web sites that have the same
thing, but from an Oracle or DB2 perspective. If Microsoft's product
keeps your boat afloat, then more power to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edwards Ed
[mailto:db2udbdba-ezmlmshield-x9410961.[Email address protected]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:35 AM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: DBA Role



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From: Edwards, Ed
Sent: Mon 6/27/2005 7:17 AM
To: Frank Dodgers ; LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: DBA Role


Frank,
Yor statement: "If an RDBMS cannot run a terabyte instance/database
out of the box, I would
say it is a "toy" RDBMS" implies that SQL Server 2000 is just an
expensive toy! You see, SQL Server 2000 is like me buying my house
after my wife and I have two kids and she and I are a 100% sure we
cannot have another child! We could afford a 10 bedroom house, but
realistic, we bought a five bedroom house (not too small and not to
big). In other words, the small SQL Server databases that we maintain
will probably never increase in size to 3 GB in 5-10 years (if they SQL
Server will be able to handle it).

Also, check out this link:
http://www.mssqlcity.com/Articles/Compare/sql_server_vs_oracle.htm#part_
5_2


________________________________

From: Frank Dodgers [mailto:db2udbdba-ezmlmshield-x15126354.[Email
address protected]
Sent: Mon 6/27/2005 12:08 AM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: Re: DBA Role



Ed,

The last time I priced SQL Server, Oracle, and DB2 for a 2 CPU Dell box
they
all costed out at about $15,000. Sure the price of Oracle and DB2 can
get
high but only when the number of nodes and CPUs increases in order to
achieve performance that SQL Server simply cannot attain.

If an RDBMS cannot run a terabyte instance/database out of the box, I
would
say it is a "toy" RDBMS. Both Oracle and DB2 can do this out the box on
any
platform they support with any DBA of average skill. That cannot be
said, I
think, for SQL Server, Postgress, MySql, etc. With companies buying
storage
in petabyte chunks these days, DB2 and Oracle will only increase their
lead.

Both IBM and Oracle (and Sun and HP) are Linux proponents, but only
because
it does not cost them anything. When it comes to being a proponent of
an
open source database, it will be a different story. Without the support
of
the BIG DOGS open source anything won't go anywhere. Competition beats
collaboration almost every time. Back before the bubble popped, Geeks
used
whatever they could get their hands on to get the company / site up and
running. Now it is a brave new world once again and Executives don't
risk
their careers on toys, they choose industrial strength software and
support
from reputable companies.

Things change fast in our business and I could be all wet in 18 months.
It
would not be the first time.


Frank Dodgers
Evergreen Information Systems
Oracle/DB2/Linux/AIX Certified
303-810-6625



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