I make more than my share of stupid mistakes, and I have to ask the
simple questions all the time, and I still refer to all of my SQL books
to get my syntax correct. Simple questions need to be asked. But the
RTFM questions are the ones that get me. Take this one, for example, I
just fished out of my outbox from a Unix board.

The question (exact typing - too lazy to read instructions AND to type
out please) -
"plz guide me how to install openwebmail on solaris 9"

My response -
"http://www.openwebmail.org/ is a good start. There are links
to documentation there."

His response (too lazy to punctuate properly, too) -
"plz help me which software i need to run before i install
webmail i am using solaris 9 on intel"

This guy couldn't even take the time to read one paragraph to get to the
README link that has the requirements listed at the top of the f*n
document. I think he wanted someone to click his mouse for him in the
right places. These are the guys that should get laid off first.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yoseph Ibraham Fahed
> [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x32171461.[Email address protected]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:35 AM
> To: LazyDBA Discussion
> Subject: RE: Purpose of Lazy DBA
>
>
> Hi DBAs
> I have been working with Databases for the past 8 years in
> number of different countries, started with Legacy Databases
> and Ended up with MS Sql and Oracle. One of my clients asked
> to come in for an interview, I have answered all of the heavy
> load questions, up until one of those goofy Database
> consultants gave me a real simple question about Databases, I
> wont say what was the Question to avoid another
> embarrassment, but that guy made feel like mumbling idiot in
> that interview, I didn't know what to say My point is even a
> real experienced DBA sometimes need to go over some basic things
>
> > I'm also new at this group and I'm in debt already to this group, I
> > believe as Netz, that there is no stupid question, sometimes what I
> > have spend more
> > time is that I try to look up in the incorrect way, words
> or anything that
> > a
> > search engine can not understand, a person might get it
> faster and point
> > you
> > in the right direction if it doesn't give the answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Netz Randy N [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x77771244.[Email
> > address protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:05 AM
> > To: LazyDBA Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Purpose of Lazy DBA
> >
> > I am new to this group. I have been an Oracle DBA for over 5 years
> > now and I have learned that there is no such thing as a stupid
> > question.
> >
> > I remember when I was still new to Oracle and everything was a bit
> > overwhelming. For those of us who have grown with Oracle
> through the
> > years, it does us all good to remember our Junior DBA days.
> >
> > HOWEVER, I do hope people will attempt to research their problems
> > first ... perhaps on Metalink or by referencing
> manuals/textbooks. If
> > you cannot find the answer elsewhere and within a short
> amount of time
> > (there is no sense in spending more than 15 to 30 minutes trying to
> > find an answer on your own when people on this list can
> help) then a
> > question posted here should be treated seriously and with
> respect from
> > other members.
> >
> > At least, that's my take on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Randy Netz
> > Oracle DBA
> > 816-860-3921 (work)
> > 816-686-1639 (cell)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sangster Simon [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x18081204.[Email
> > address protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:42 AM
> > To: LazyDBA Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Purpose of Lazy DBA
> >
> > I have to say that I was struggling last week with what (it
> seemed to
> > me)
> > was a pretty simple sql process and the current critical feeling
> > regarding simple questions stopped me posting to the forum for
> > assistance (incidentally I did rtfm first lol)
> >
> > Si
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Hagemaier
> [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x71515040.[Email
> > address protected]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:25 PM
> > To: LazyDBA Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Purpose of Lazy DBA
> >
> >
> > This topic comes up way more often in the SQL Server list. Haven't
> > seen it here for quite while. I've always found the Oracle
> list to be
> > a friendlier place. And I hope it stays that way.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeremy Wilson [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x94708564.[Email
> > address protected]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:58 AM
> > To: LazyDBA Discussion
> > Subject: Re: Purpose of Lazy DBA
> >
> >
> > I am new to the list, but also fairly experienced with both
> sql server
> > and oracle. I have some really stupid easy questions sometimes on
> > stuff I know I looked up previously but just don't have the time at
> > some points. I think anyone should be able to any level of
> question
> > without fear of ridicule. Atleast this is what I am
> looking for in a
> > list. This current topic is about to make me look else
> where again for
> > another dba group. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
> >
> > Jeremy Wilson
> >
> >
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