RE: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs. Non-production

RE: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs. Non-production

 

  

Perhaps that is why I am perplexed, why indeed. I think I am missing
something. Perhaps you addressed this originally, but it is late, and I
am only responding because I am online. I don't really see how multiple
OEM affects it.

Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
joel.[Email address protected]
x72546
904 727-2546

-----Original Message-----
From: Amin Adatia
[mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x84966560.[Email address protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:30 PM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: Re: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs. Non-production

Multiple OEM would not impact downtime -- BUT the question is why to
even
consider multiple OEM just because of the downtime statistic?

Regards
Amin Adatia ([Email address protected]
KnowTech Solutions Inc. (www.knowtech.ca)
(613) 226-8378 Mobile (613) 864-8378
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel" <oracledba-ezmlmshield-x98702878.[Email address protected]
To: "LazyDBA Discussion" <[Email address protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs. Non-production


> I'd like you to elaborate on that. I don't understand why multiple
> repositories would impact downtime. ... as well as why you would need
> multiple repositories.
>
> I'm kind of new to the idea, and admit as of yet have not thought
about
> it really. But it seems so complex to have more than one repository.
>
> The first thing that comes to mind is dual RMAN catalog databases.
One
> to back up the other, and vice versa, and maybe to split the backups
> they do. But I don't see the analogy really with the repository.
>
> Joel Patterson
> Database Administrator
> joel.[Email address protected]
> x72546
> 904 727-2546
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amin Adatia
> [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x98029160.[Email address protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:11 PM
> To: LazyDBA Discussion
> Subject: Re: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs.
Non-production
>
> Sorry .. I was not clear in my statement. I agree with your point
about
> the
> blackout. I was trying to say ... to have multiple OEM repositories
> because
> of the downtime statistics does not make any sense.
>
> Regards
> Amin Adatia ([Email address protected]
> KnowTech Solutions Inc. (www.knowtech.ca)
> (613) 226-8378 Mobile (613) 864-8378
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel" <oracledba-ezmlmshield-x13570243.[Email address
protected]
> To: "LazyDBA Discussion" <[Email address protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs.
Non-production
>
>
>>I didn't understand your comments. All I am saying if you run a cold
>> backup that takes 2.4 hours, then your downtime is 10%. If you tell
> OEM
>> that those 2.4 hours is a blackout, your downtime will be 0.
>>
>> I could be wrong, as I have not seen it with my own two eyes. But
> that
>> is my understanding.
>>
>> Joel Patterson
>> Database Administrator
>> joel.[Email address protected]
>> x72546
>> 904 727-2546
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amin Adatia
>> [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x3583823.[Email address protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:23 PM
>> To: LazyDBA Discussion
>> Subject: Re: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs.
> Non-production
>>
>> But maybe the focus is on the downtime -- like the quarterly results
> --
>> and
>> not the management of all databases. If you can do the work with more
>> than
>> one -- why not have 6?
>>
>> Regards
>> Amin Adatia ([Email address protected]
>> KnowTech Solutions Inc. (www.knowtech.ca)
>> (613) 226-8378 Mobile (613) 864-8378
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joel" <oracledba-ezmlmshield-x98867803.[Email address
> protected]
>> To: "LazyDBA Discussion" <[Email address protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:30 PM
>> Subject: RE: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs.
> Non-production
>>
>>
>>> Don't think so.
>>> Shouldn't it report by database? And overall for the target/server.
>>>
>>> Downtime due to scheduled outages is not counted towards the
downtime
>>> statistic. If you blackout the target before bringing it down, the
>>> time will not count.
>>>
>>> Joel Patterson
>>> Database Administrator
>>> joel.[Email address protected]
>>> x72546
>>> 904 727-2546
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ron
>>> [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x60657216.[Email address protected]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:18 PM
>>> To: LazyDBA Discussion
>>> Subject: Architecture for Grid Control Production vs. Non-production
>>>
>>> DBA architects
>>> We are going to deploy OEM Grid control and want to put agents on
all
>>> boxes, both production and non-production (QA, Test, etc).
>>>
>>> Would I setup a separate OMS and repository for non-production or
put
>> it
>>>
>>> into one repository?
>>>
>>> If I put it all in one repository, won't the reporting get polluted
> by
>>> non-production data? i.e. It will show a lot of downtime due to
>>> non-production being down.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the guidance.
>>>
>>>
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