thanks for all responses.
Whats diff b/w unix and linux. And curruntly i have seen linux in a GUI
environment which looks eacy. ???

Irfi

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> You've been at it on unix longer than I have. I started using unix
> professionally in 1984 or 1985. Can't remember. I must be getting too
> "young" too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edwards Ed
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:19 PM
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> Subject: RE: Solaris And Linux ?
>
> Ahhhhhhh, yes! I remember "ex". You are correct; vi runs on top of
> "ex"! I must be getting "old"! I mean "young"! hehe. Ahhhhhh, yes!
> So many new things to learn, old things to try and remember! What a
> life! Hehe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Lister
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> Ha! I always wondered where they got the name for the "ed" editor!
>
> Actually, vi was written by Bill Joy in 1976 for an early release of the
> Berkely Source Distribution (BSD).
>
> I believe vi runs on top of ex, not ed.
>
> But, the two are very similar. ;o)
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Well, well, well,
> It's Kevin! Hehe. I use vi and vim, but they are new to me! You
> see, I started using Unix in the United States Air Force in 1982 and the
> editor of choice was "ed". Yes, it was named after me! Hehe. Did you
> know that vi runs on top of "ed"? hehe.
>
>
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> It's Ed Edwards. Hee hee hee.
>
> dtpad? Yikes! I use vi or vim (vi improved). Most CDE based Windows
> Manager's provide the dtpad editor. But, vi is always available no
> matter what run state the system is in. ;o)
>
> kev
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> Using a Text Editor on a Solaris server (if you have X-Windows)
>
> 1. Start X-Windows on your pc
> 2. Log on to the Solaris server
> 3. Type in: /usr/dt/bin/dtpad
> 4. When you are done using dtpad, close X-Windows.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Lister
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:25 PM
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> I feel like adding my $0.02 worth on this discussion. ;o)
>
> There is no "GUI Version" of unix. Unix is a command line OS.
>
> The GUI that is typically (and predominantly) used in unix and unix-like
> (GNU/LINUX) OS's is called X Windows.
>
> The X Windows system was developed at MIT in the 1980's as part of
> project Athena, I think. Anyway, there have been other window systems on
> unix systems. Xerox had theirs, Sun created Sunview, and HP had VUE.
> AFAIK, all the major OS's have adopted X Windows as the standard GUI.
>
> You can run any unix system without X Windows. X Windows is a completely
> separate application that is not part of the OS. While most major OS
> vendors have developed X applications to aid in the administration of
> their systems you should not rely solely on them!
>
> What if you need to administer a system remotely and cannot bring up the
> X application on the remote system? What if you want to do something to
> a system, but need to do it in single user mode? It's at this point that
> you will need to rely heavily on your command line knowlege, which you
> already have.
>
> If you want to learn the "GUI" then you will need to learn X windows. X
> Windows is conceptually simple and elegant. However, knowing the details
> of how to set up X and configure it takes a great deal of time. There is
> a great book by on X Windows by O'Reilly. It doesn't have everything in
> it, but it is very handy to have. I highly recommend it.
>
> I sure hope all of this helps!
>
> kev
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: YIF
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:38 PM
> To: LazyDBA Discussion
> Subject: RE: Solaris And Linux ?
>
> Hi Guys
> i have been working with Unix for many years, all i know is the command
> line way, can you please Stephen explain this to me
> **********
> PS: You learn UN*X from the command line first, GUI second!
> **********
>
> WHERE IS THE GUI VERSIONIN UNIX???????? i think all Oracle DBAs should
> have a minimum knowledge of Unix even if their Oracle Databases run on
> Microsoft Platforms, Linux Redhat is very similar to Unix Solaris
>
> if you know Sun Solaris, then it will easy to move to Linux.
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>> To learn UNIX will take time and require a learning curve, not so much
>
>> if you have had experience working with UN*X. My background is as a
>> SUN/LINUX admin (13 years) and I moved into DBA work (6 years), which
>> gives me an edge over other DBAs who work primarily Windows-hosted
>> DBMS systems.
>>
>> Benefits to knowing UN*X is the obvious... flexibility in your career
>> field, which can translate into increased opportunities. Second is
>> that it takes a real effort to be good on UN*X systems, as much if
>> your work will be outside the GUI interfaces frequently used on
>> Windows machines and there is a lot to remember and keep in practice
>> with, which discourages many DBAs from pursuing a UN*X background to
>> enhance their careers.
>>
>> If you just want to put the words on your resume to get a better job,
>> perhaps you may want to apply your efforts in other directions;
>> however, if you are serious, then it is a very worthwhile venture.
>>
>> PS: You learn UN*X from the command line first, GUI second!
>>
>> Stephen Price
>> Oracle Database Administrator
>> Compusearch Software Systems, Inc.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Irfan Ahmad
>> [mailto:oracledba-ezmlmshield-x39461428.[Email address protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:47 AM
>> To: LazyDBA Discussion
>> Subject: Solaris And Linux ?
>>
>> Hi friends!!!
>> Now a days; i am seeing lot of oracle jobs want knowledge about
>> solaris and linux operating system. So in this regard now i have
>> decided to learn these os's.
>>
>> So please tell me; what will be the benefits to learn these os's ?
>> Secondly linux have two versions one is command base and second one is
>
>> GUI base... which one is good ?
>>
>> Waiting for your quick response.
>>
>> Irfan Ahmad
>>
>>
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