--ah. i should have prefaced my email with that info.
--sorry.

--my dept is very small, but we develop products /reports /info
--to other, larger, departments. i have about 20 or so 'actual'
--users (co-workers) and about 200 or so 'clients', that is those
--who supply most of the info / data.

--on the last DB (PostgreSQL), we developed a naming convention
--so it would help me to keep a handle on the many tables that
--are created for a one-type job and left for months. only when
--i threaten them do they start packing their data elsewhere; i
--simply don't have the room to keep stuff.

--i don't have nice things like, 'development server' or 'cooperation'
--on this side of the world.

--my dept. likes to spend money on 'contract luncheons' instead of
--'backup software'. don't get me started with that
--(find my happy place). so ... a lot of these things are my
--responsibilities by default. have i talked to them "users"
--yes - but it is more of me emailing my list of concerns,
--suggestions and actual schedules for me to do XYZ and
--i get, on more than one occasion : "Oh, i didn't read that ..."

--it's a running joke, albeit not very funny (for me).

--my managers know, but they are the ones that are encouraging
--this type of behavior by not setting the example.

--i don't want to be known as the 'anal admin', either ...

-X

>From: [Email Address Removed] [mailto:[Email Address Removed] most important question here is 'are your users your
>'customers' or are they your co-workers.
[snip]

>If they are co-workers... you dont have to be as careful. it
>depends on how your organization works. Do your 'users' have
>managers? Managers are usually pretty big on naming
>conventions and standards. Have you talked to them? Have you
>gone to your management and had them excalate it?
[snip]
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