RE: Want to shrink !!!

RE: Want to shrink !!!

 

  

No need to take the backup.
Just simply check the Auto shrink.

Regards,

Rashid Nizam

Software Engineer (DB)



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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Lau/IT [mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x26596369.[Email address protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:53 PM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: Want to shrink !!!




What is the proper procedure to shrink the databases?
In the property of each database, there is an option for me to configure
"Auto" for shrinking databases, can I simply configure to that option?

Do I need to back up first before I configure to that option?



Thanks,


Frank Lau




-----Original Message-----
From: Wes Wilson
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x86275825.[Email address protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:17 AM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: Urgent for a solution

No, Ralph was right.

From BOL:

Bulk-Logged Recovery
The Bulk-Logged Recovery model provides protection against media failure
combined with the best performance and minimal log space usage for certain
large-scale or bulk copy operations. These operations are minimally logged:

SELECT INTO.


Bulk load operations (bcp and BULK INSERT).


CREATE INDEX (including indexed views).


text and image operations (WRITETEXT and UPDATETEXT).
In a Bulk-Logged Recovery model, the data loss exposure for these bulk copy
operations is greater than in the Full Recovery model. While the bulk copy
operations are fully logged under the Full Recovery model, they are
minimally logged and cannot be controlled on an operation-by-operation basis
under the Bulk-Logged Recovery model. Under the Bulk-Logged Recovery model,
a damaged data file can result in having to redo work manually.

In addition, the Bulk-Logged Recovery model only allows the database to be
recovered to the end of a transaction log backup when the log backup
contains bulk changes. Point-in-time recovery is not supported.

In Microsoft® SQL Server(tm) 2000, you can switch between full and
bulk-logged recovery models easily. It is not necessary to perform a full
database backup after bulk copy operations complete under the Bulk-Logged
Recovery model. Transaction log backups under this model capture both the
log and the results of any bulk operations performed since the last backup.

The backup strategy for bulk-logged recovery consists of:

Database backups.


Differential backups (optional).


Log backups.
Backing up a log that contains bulk-logged operations requires access to all
data files in the database. If the data files are not accessible, the final
transaction log cannot be backed up and all committed operations in that log
will be lost.

Wes Wilson
REGISTRAT, Inc.
Sr. Systems Administrator / Data Base Administrator





-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Manuel Oliveira Rocha
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x73376718.[Email address protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:50 AM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: Urgent for a solution

I am sorry, but bulk logged, logs every trans like full model does, and also
bulk inserts too... so it's the FULLEST Model you can choose!

hope it helps!

-----Original Message-----
From: Davis Ralph
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x22875020.[Email address protected]
Sent: terça-feira, 27 de Junho de 2006 15:06
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: Urgent for a solution


If you set it to bulk-logged, instead of simple, you won't have to take
another full backup. It will still write to the log but not nearly as much
data as full recovery model does.

Thanks,
Ralph W. Davis
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Rayburn
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x41457154.[Email address protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:51 AM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: Urgent for a solution

Make sure you take a full backup after you reset your recovery back to FULL.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Phillips
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x56897612.[Email address protected]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:58 PM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: Urgent for a solution

You probably have recovery mode on the db set to Full and you tried to
shrink the MDF's, but then all that cool shrinking was logged by default.
If so you could run the following in Query Analyzer in an emergency (backup
first). This worked for me.

alter database [YourDBName] set recovery simple
dbcc shrinkfile (YourDBName_Log)
checkpoint
dbcc shrinkfile (YourDBName_Log)
alter database [YourDBName] set recovery full

Michael


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Lau/IT
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x66391863.[Email address protected]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:28 PM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: Urgent for a solution





The transaction log of SQL 2005 is growing too fast, anyone can provide some
tips??






Frank Lau





-----Original Message-----
From: Lucey Christine
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x30963954.[Email address protected]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 9:08 AM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: RE: Database shrinking

Hi, Frank. Quick question: Is it actually your database that is growing too
fast, or the database's transaction log?

Another question: What version of SQL are you running here?

--Chris

Christine H. Lucey MCSE MCP+I CCNA
Assistant Director of Network Services
The Kingston Hospital
396 Broadway, 4th Floor
Kingston, New York 12401
Tel. (845) 334-2700, ext. 2406
[Email address protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Lau/IT
[mailto:mssqldba-ezmlmshield-x63035230.[Email address protected]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 12:04 PM
To: LazyDBA Discussion
Subject: Database shrinking


Hi all,

When one of the databases is growing too fast within the a hard drive, what
kind of the solutions do you guys recommend to make sure that there are
always enough spaces for the databases??

I want to shrink the database, do you guys think it is ok to do so? What is
proper procedure to shrink a database and prevent the lost of the data???




Thanks,


Frank Lau




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